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And What Kind of System?

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The Tapestry of the Law

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If, then, there are difficulties in the way of identifying law as the province or creation of officials (and particularly of some united elite within officialdom), is there some alternative way in which laws and legal systems can be distinguished from other aspects of the social world? The trouble with any attempt to find one by beginning with the notion of a legal system is that the term “system” is used in so many different, and often imprecise, ways. The most common feature of such usage, however, seems to be the understanding of a system as having something to do with parts in the context of wholes. This introduces an immediate complication because, as mentioned in chapter II, there are at least three different views about the relationship between parts and wholes. Attempts to understand the notion of system are complicated still further by the fact that the term can be understood both statically and dynamically. The static understanding has to do with ordered presentation, the dynamic one to do with procedures and processes.

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Attwooll, E. (1997). And What Kind of System?. In: The Tapestry of the Law. Law and Philosophy Library, vol 26. Springer, Dordrecht. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-94-015-8800-3_9

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