Abstract
Taita Juan is a Cametsa traditional healer and yagecero from the Sibundoy Valley in Colombia. As a member of the new generation of Colombian taitas traveling the world, he has acquired clients and apprentices from throughout the Americas and Europe. He is perhaps best known internationally for having been detained by United States Customs officials and charged with possession with intent to distribute a Schedule 1 drug (ayahuasca) in 2010; he was subsequently released and deported. In this interview, we explore Taita Juan’s views on how ayahuasca can be used to diagnose and heal illness. We address how clients are prepared for ceremonies (i.e., diet, sexual activity) as well as how he determines which patients can safely receive ayahuasca or other plant medicines (i.e., proscriptions based on health conditions or medication use). The interview also explores how the substance itself is ritually handled, including preparation, dosage, and its combination with other purgative plants and healing techniques such as limpias (cleansings), perfumes, and music. We discuss how Taita Juan’s treatments are occasionally used in conjunction with conventional allopathic medicine. We also discuss his claims to have cured cases of heroin addiction, cancer, and AIDS, and address the drug addiction treatment clinic he and his assistants are founding in Central America. Finally, the interview explores not only Taita Juan’s experience of being detained and released by the United States government, but also the legal ramifications this has had for the traditional use of ayahuasca in Colombia and elsewhere.
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Notes
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1 cup = 8 oz; and 5–10 cm = 1–2 oz.
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All of the varieties listed are Banisteriopsis caapi; the way that they grow and how they are harvested is what distinguishes the different types. See Appendix for more information.
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Borrachera mostly refers to a variety of species in the Brugmansia family that are sometimes mixed with yagé; the Camseta also refer to some plants as borracheras that are not of the Brugmansia family.
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Cascabeles are Amazonian rainforest seeds that are used to make necklaces because of the rattling sound that is created when the seeds hit each other.
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Taita Juan is poking fun at Brian Anderson here because he knows that Brian is a medical student.
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Saumedio is a local term for incense.
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The root of the chonduro is used to make an infusion with water and alcohol that is then utilized for the sopla, i.e., the blowing of a fine mist on a patient.
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A waira is a collection of leaves tied together to form a ceremonial tool.
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He is referring to the signatures obtained during his US incarceration from people in Colombia and internationally that vouched for the “medicinal” quality of yagé and, specifically, their experiences with him.
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Acknowledgments
We would like to thank Pamela Ruiz Flores López for the transcription of the original interview with Taita Juan, Gustavo Caldarelli for his assistance with the translation of the interview to English, and Clancy Cavnar for the revision of the text. Finally, we would like to thank the Taita for his time and patience in doing this interview and for his willingness to share so openly his knowledge of Cametsa healing practices—both those he was taught and those he himself has developed over his years of caring for patients hailing from near and far. We also thank him for sharing his artwork here with us.
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Appendix: Select Medicinal Plants in Taita Juan’s Garden
Appendix: Select Medicinal Plants in Taita Juan’s Garden
[In the preparation of this text, not all English-language names and scientific names were available to the authors]
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Ajenjo—Wormwood—Artemisia absinthium
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Amansaguapo
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Anamu
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Arnica—Arnica
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Borrachera Amarillo—Trumpet Flower—Brugmansia aurea
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Borrachera Blanco—Trumpet Flower—Brugmansia arborea
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Borrachera Rosada—Trumpet Flower—Brugmansia insignis
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Borrachera Rosada—Trumpet Flower—Brugmansia suaveolens
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Botoncillo de Mar
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Calendula—Calendula—Calendula officinalis
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Canelon
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Casco de Vaca
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Cauco
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Cedron—Aloysia triphylla
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Chonduro Rojo
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Chontambe
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Coco Chonduro
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Cuiyangillo
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Diente de Leon—Dandelion—Taraxacum officinale
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Eneldo
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Escobilla
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Escorsonera
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Euculyptus—Euculyptus—Eucalyptus globulus
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Euculyptus—Euculyptus—Eucalyptus leucoxylon
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Gente Chonduro
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Hoja Santa
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Insulina
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Limoncillo—Lemongrass—Cympopogon citratus
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Manzanilla—Chamomile—Matricaria recutita
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Menta—Mint—Mentha spicata
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Millonaria
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Oregano—Oregano—Origanum Vulgare
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Ortiga—Nettles
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Paico—Wormseed—Dysphania ambrosioides
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Pajakan
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Poeleo
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Quererme
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Romasa
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Romero—Rosemary—Rosmarinus officinalis
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Sabila—Aloe Vera—Aloe barbadensis
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Sangre de Drago—Croton lechleri
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Sauco- Elderberry—Sambucus nigra
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Seguidora
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Sidra
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Tarta
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Tigre Chonduro
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Tomillo—Thyme—Thymus vulgaris
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Toronjil—Lemon Balm—Melissa officinalis
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Valerana—Valerian—Valeriana officinalis
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Violeta—Violet—Viola odorata
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Vira Vira
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Waira Chonduro
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Yagé—Banisteriopsis caapi
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Yerba Buena—Peppermint—Mentha arvensis
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Yerba Dulce
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Anderson, B.T., Labate, B.C., De Leon, C.M. (2014). Healing with Yagé: An Interview with Taita Juan Bautista Agreda Chindoy. In: Labate, B.C., Cavnar, C. (eds) The Therapeutic Use of Ayahuasca. Springer, Berlin, Heidelberg. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-642-40426-9_12
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