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Dependence of the Time-Reading Process of the Salecker–Wigner Quantum Clock on the Size of the Clock

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It is shown in the present note that the degree of the complexity of the time-reading process of the Salecker–Wigner clock depends on the size of the clock. This dependence leads to a relation between the size and the accuracy of the clock, and suggests a precise optimal value for the size in agreement with the order of magnitude value established by Salecker and Wigner.

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Appendices

Appendix 1

In this appendix relation (4) between \(t_0\) and \(t_c\) is derived.

In [1] the time \(t_0\) carried by the clock is given in Eq. (8):

$$\begin{aligned} t_0 = \frac{c - v}{v} \,\frac{\ell }{c} (2r - 1). \end{aligned}$$
(42)

Here v stands for the negative velocity of the hand and

$$\begin{aligned} r = \frac{t_{\widehat{2}}^A - t_{\widehat{1}}^A}{t_{\widehat{3}}^A - t_1^A} . \end{aligned}$$
(43)

The expression of v and r through the velocity u and the ratio \(\varrho \) (see 16) used in this note is

$$\begin{aligned} v&= -u, \end{aligned}$$
(44)
$$\begin{aligned} r&= 1 - \varrho . \end{aligned}$$
(45)

Substituting (44) and (45) into (42) relation (4) is easily obtained, with \(t_c\) given in (15).

Appendix 2

In this appendix it is shown that if the length of the dial is

$$\begin{aligned} 2\ell = \frac{1}{2} c\tau (1 + \beta ) \end{aligned}$$
(46)

or shorter, then the triad partner of a quantum \(\widehat{2}\) is the first quantum \(\widehat{3}\) following that \(\widehat{2}\) on the way toward the recorder. In this case the identification of the triad partners \((\widehat{2}, \widehat{3})\) can be done without the knowledge of the serial number k. However, if the dial is longer than the value in (46), namely if

$$\begin{aligned} 2\ell = \frac{m}{2} c\tau (1 + \beta ), \quad m = 2,3, \dots , \end{aligned}$$
(47)

then the pairing depends on the value of k.

The proof of the above statements relies on the comparison of the distance \(x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}}\) between the consecutive quanta \(\widehat{3}\) with the distances \(x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k}\) between the triad partners \(\widehat{2}_k\), \(\widehat{3}_k\).

It is easy to see that

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}} = c\tau (1 + \beta ), \quad k = 1,2,\dots , n. \end{aligned}$$
(48)

Indeed, as told before Eq. (30), \(c\tau (1 + \beta )\) is the distance between the consecutive triads impinging on the clock, in particular between the consecutive quanta \(\widetilde{3}\) scattered back by dial body \(\mathbf 3\) at rest. The scattered \(\widetilde{3}\)’s are the \(\widehat{3}\)’s, therefore the distance between the consecutive \(\widehat{3}\)’s is equal to the same distance \(c\tau (1 + \beta )\).

Let us now look at the distances \(x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k}\). According to (22)

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} = 2\left( \ell - x_h^{(k)}\right) , \quad k = 1,2,\dots , n, \end{aligned}$$
(49)

where \(x_h^{(k)}\) is the coordinate of the hand at the moment of its scattering with the quantum \(\widetilde{2}_k\) which becomes \(\widehat{2}_k\) at that very moment. As told before Eq. (30) such scatterings follow each other at time intervals \(\tau \). During one interval the hand covers the distance

$$\begin{aligned} u\tau = \frac{2\ell }{T} \tau = \frac{2\ell }{n} \end{aligned}$$
(50)

in the negative X direction, therefore the relation between \(x_h^{(k)}\) and \(x_h^{(1)}\) is

$$\begin{aligned} x_h^{(k)} = x_h^{(1)} - (k - 1) \frac{2\ell }{n}, \quad k = 1,2,\dots , n. \end{aligned}$$
(51)

Since the hand starts from the point \(x_{d_3} = \ell \), its scattering with the first quantum \(\widetilde{2}_1\) occurs in the interval \(\left[ \ell , \ell - \frac{2\ell }{n}\right] \). Let us consider the case when this scattering happens at the middle point

$$\begin{aligned} x_h^{(1)} = \ell - \frac{\ell }{n} \end{aligned}$$
(52)

of the interval. The results obtained in this special case concerning the time-reading process are valid also for other points of the interval. The mathematical derivation involves cumbersome notation in the general case.

From (49), (51) and (52) it follows that

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} = 4\ell \frac{k - \frac{1}{2}}{n}, \quad k = 1,2, \dots , n. \end{aligned}$$
(53)

Let us now look at the case when the length of the dial is given by (46):

$$\begin{aligned} 2\ell = \frac{1}{2} c\tau (1 + \beta ). \end{aligned}$$
(54)

Then according to (48)

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}} = 4\ell , \end{aligned}$$
(55)

and (53) leads to

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} = \left( x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}}\right) \frac{k - \frac{1}{2}}{n} < x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}} \end{aligned}$$
(56)

for all values of k. (56) says that \(\widehat{2}_k\) travels toward the recorder between \(\widehat{3}_{k - 1}\) and \(\widehat{3}_k\) (Fig. 2), so the triad partner of \(\widehat{2}_k\) is indeed the first quantum \(\widehat{3}\) following \(\widehat{2}_k\).

Fig. 2
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The case \(2\ell = \frac{1}{2} c\tau (1 + \beta )\)

Let us now consider the cases when the length of the dial is given by relation (47). The general result for \(m \ge 2\) described in Sect. 4 can be inferred from the special cases \(m = 2\) and \(m = 3\) discussed below.

For \(m = 2\) (47) and (48) give

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}} = 2\ell , \end{aligned}$$
(57)

so (53) becomes

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} = \left( x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}}\right) \frac{2k - 1}{n}. \end{aligned}$$
(58)

According to this relation if

$$\begin{aligned} k < \frac{n + 1}{2} \end{aligned}$$
(59)

then

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} < x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}}, \end{aligned}$$
(60)

\(\widehat{2}_k\) travels between \(\widehat{3}_{k - 1}\) and \(\widehat{3}_k\), thus the triad partner of \(\widehat{2}_k\) is again the first \(\widehat{3}\) following \(\widehat{2}_k\) (Fig. 3a).

Fig. 3
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The cases \(m = 2\)

If

$$\begin{aligned} k = \frac{n + 1}{2} \end{aligned}$$
(61)

then \(\widehat{2}_k\) and \(\widehat{3}_{k - 1}\) travel together, and the triad partner of \(\widehat{2}_k\) is still the first \(\widehat{3}\) following \(\widehat{2}_k\). However, if

$$\begin{aligned} k > \frac{n + 1}{2} \end{aligned}$$
(62)

then

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} > x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}}, \end{aligned}$$
(63)

\(\widehat{2}_k\) travels between \(\widehat{3}_{k - 2}\) and \(\widehat{3}_{k - 1}\), and the triad partner of \(\widehat{2}_k\) is the second \(\widehat{3}\) following \(\widehat{2}_k\).

Dealing with relations involving k and n one should take into account that both k and n are integers. Thus for even values of n the case (61) does not occur, and in (59) the highest occurring value of k is n / 2.

If the recorder is turned on at a moment during the arrival of the quanta, the serial number k of a registered quantum \(\widehat{2}\) is not known, and it is ambiguous whether the first or the second quantum \(\widehat{3}\) is its triad partner. According to (57) the distance between these \(\widehat{3}\)’s is \(2\ell \), and from (32) it follows that the ambiguity in \(t_c\) is

$$\begin{aligned} \Delta t_c = \frac{2\ell }{4\ell } T = \frac{T}{2}, \end{aligned}$$
(64)

much larger than the accuracy \(\tau \) of the clock.

Let us now look at the case \(m = 3\). Then according to (47) and (48)

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}} = \frac{4\ell }{3}, \quad k = 1,2,\dots , n, \end{aligned}$$
(65)

and with (53)

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} = \left( x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}}\right) 3 \frac{k - \frac{1}{2}}{n}. \end{aligned}$$
(66)

The triad partner of \(\widehat{2}_k\) is now the first \(\widehat{3}\) following \(\widehat{2}_k\) if

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} \le x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}}, \end{aligned}$$
(67)

i.e. according to (66) if

$$\begin{aligned} k \le \frac{n}{3} + \frac{1}{2}. \end{aligned}$$
(68)

The triad partner of \(\widehat{2}_k\) is the second \(\widehat{3}\) following \(\widehat{2}_k\) if

$$\begin{aligned} x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}} < x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{2}_k} \le x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 2}} = 2 \left( x_{\widehat{3}_k} - x_{\widehat{3}_{k - 1}}\right) , \end{aligned}$$
(69)

i.e. if

$$\begin{aligned} \frac{n}{3} + \frac{1}{2} < k \le \frac{2n}{3} + \frac{1}{2}, \end{aligned}$$
(70)

and the triad partner is the third \(\widehat{3}\) if

$$\begin{aligned} \frac{2n}{3} + \frac{1}{2} < k \le n + \frac{1}{2}. \end{aligned}$$
(71)

If the value of k is not registered by the recorder the ambiguity in the choice of the triad partner \(\widehat{3}\) of a \(\widehat{2}\) is now threefold. According to (65) the distance between \(\widehat{3}_k\) and \(\widehat{3}_{k - 1}\), as well as between \(\widehat{3}_{k - 1}\) and \(\widehat{3}_{k - 2}\) is \(4\ell / 3\), between \(\widehat{3}_k\) and \(\widehat{3}_{k - 2}\) it is \(8\ell / 3\). Therefore from (32) it follows that the ambiguities in the value of \(t_c\) are T / 3 and 2T / 3.

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Frenkel, A. Dependence of the Time-Reading Process of the Salecker–Wigner Quantum Clock on the Size of the Clock. Found Phys 45, 1561–1573 (2015). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10701-015-9938-x

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